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    Quote Originally Posted by joo_driven View Post
    hello Mij [*]- cannot see where i can select Composite over selected background color >OK, and that[*]- i cannot Press Matte button, since it is somewhat deactivated...
    hello again joo
    I am losing track of what you can and cannot do.
    I assume that in my item 1 you can now see GML matting in the list of filters, can select it and press Start selected filter. Is it at this point that you could not see a dialog box with the option Composite over selected background color ?
    If so is that still the case?

    try to do so! but it is surprising that i have to fill the image full - that means that the outlining has to bee 100 %
    Yes the highlighter outline does have to be 100% or the fill color will leak out into the area outside. That applies even to the bottom of the cut-out area which is on the edge of the frame. Just position the highlight brush right at the bottom on one side of your cut-out and left click then position at the bottom on the other side, hold down Shift and left click again. That will draw a straight line across the bottom of the cut-out and stop the fill from leaking out there.
    I do not have a very steady hand so draw nearly all my outlines in small straight line segments by holding down the Shift key and clicking around the outline. I then just finish with a single straight line across the bottom. You soon get the idea of where you need to click.

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    hi all

    many thanks for replying

    i came one step further

    try to finish today!

    i will post agian

    Quote Originally Posted by Mij View Post
    hello again joo

    Yes the highlighter outline does have to be 100% or the fill color will leak out into the area outside. That applies even to the bottom of the cut-out area which is on the edge of the frame. Just position the highlight brush right at the bottom on one side of your cut-out and left click then position at the bottom on the other side, hold down Shift and left click again. That will draw a straight line across the bottom of the cut-out and stop the fill from leaking out there.
    I do not have a very steady hand so draw nearly all my outlines in small straight line segments by holding down the Shift key and clicking around the outline. I then just finish with a single straight line across the bottom. You soon get the idea of where you need to click.

    many many thanks - i will report

    see you later today
    many thanks so far

    joo

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    hi there

    when done all the work with filling out and creating a "layer" - what has to be done next. Well how to get the next layer!?


    Try to finish today the first reworked image

    i will post agian Meanwhile - many many thanks - i will report

    see you later today

    joo

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    There is no layer -- the plugin is written for programs that use layers, but IrfanView does not. Just ignore its talking about layers. When you have the masking outline and fill done, click "Mask". Then "Okay". Then, in the next dialog, choose "Composite over selected background color" and click "Okay". That's it, it's done.

    Mij -- you don't have to close the bottom, as long as the outline is all the way down on both sides. I'm lazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by matera View Post
    There is no layer -- the plugin is written for programs that use layers, but IrfanView does not. Just ignore its talking about layers. When you have the masking outline and fill done, click "Mask". Then "Okay". Then, in the next dialog, choose "Composite over selected background color" and click "Okay". That's it, it's done.

    Mij -- you don't have to close the bottom, as long as the outline is all the way down on both sides. I'm lazy
    here we have the results

    cheers
    joo

    btw: looks good so far - but what if i want to put a background behind that image... btw how is that other image, called the "demo image" being done... can i do such a image too!? Love to hear from you!!!!!!

    BTW: in this regard - what is gradient here!? What does the term gradient mean here...
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    Joo
    You only seem to have got to step 6 of my walk through. The remaining steps 7-11 are about adding a background image.

    Your "demo" picture looks as though it has a background where the color (or brightness) changes slowly across the picture. That is called a "gradient" fill.

    IrfanView does not do gradient fills (although there may be another effects filter that would). If you want to do that as well though I think that you should take that much earlier advice from Bhikkhu Pesala to use a graphics program like Page Plus.

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    David Blend - filters - Gradient Sky and a few others. Sorry, no link handy.

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    Thanks Matera. I will have a look at that one when I get a spare moment..

    It is quite surprising how much you can do in Irfanview using plugins, workarounds, batch files and other dodges but there does come a point when I have to admit that it is not really the right program for the job (especially when Bhikkhu said so several pages back).

    In fact I know there is a gradient tool in Harry's filters that comes bundled with the plugins download. You can get an effect like the attachment by just playing with it, but I am not sure I want to go there in this thread.
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    hi Mij

    many many thanks for the great work! it looks impressive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mij View Post
    Thanks Matera. I will have a look at that one when I get a spare moment..

    It is quite surprising how much you can do in Irfanview using plugins, workarounds, batch files and other dodges but there does come a point when I have to admit that it is not really the right program for the job (especially when Bhikkhu said so several pages back).

    In fact I know there is a gradient tool in Harry's filters that comes bundled with the plugins download. You can get an effect like the attachment by just playing with it, but I am not sure I want to go there in this thread.
    i will play with Harrys tool

    i do a background first - and then afterwards i will implement the image that i have created with bf8 filters....

    BTW; how did i miss your steps 7-xy - i will have a closer look.


    many thanks
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    joo

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    hi there hello Mij

    many many thanks for the relpy. Btw - i see that i did not walk through to all the steps ... Can i get into the steps again!? Even if i allready have stepped out and stopped with the work... at the step 6

    Quote Originally Posted by Mij View Post
    Joo You only seem to have got to step 6 of my walk through. The remaining steps 7-11 are about adding a background image.
    look forward to hear from you
    cheers
    joo


    BTW - what about adding the image on a cetrain gradient image that i found on the net.... see the attachements. The question is aimed to get some better backgrounds: As you can imagine: Two pictures ghosted or let me better say put on each other. How can i do this on the easieset way. Do i need GML_Matting-Filter!? Look forward to hear from you
    btw: see the attached files... with some gradient backgrounds.. Note; i found the backgrounds here http://www.nem5.com/graphics/grad/6.html or
    http://www.nem5.com/graphics/grad/8.html .... ant the like...

    The question is how to mount the background together with the image. Do i have to run the GML_Matting_filter again or can i solve this task somehow with other ways...!?

    if i should explain it a bit more - then lemme know!!
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