Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Problem with pale colors

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Problem with pale colors

    There is a strange problem which I don't know how to remove and it also appears in images made by irfan view.
    Here's a screenshot captured by KMPlayer and open and saved with IrfanView:

    And here's a screenshot captured by the same player but open and saved with Paint:

    Do you see the difference between these two images? In the first one the colors are paler than the colors in the second image.
    So, do you know how to remove this... "paling" of colors in the first image? I mean - how can I make Irfan to work with the settings given to the image by KMPlayer and not using these strange Irfan settings?

    #2
    Do you have Apply gamma correction checked in Properties/Settings > Viewing tab? If so, try unchecking it.

    Comment


      #3
      I unchecked it before I post this topic and this paling remained. It also appears when I creat images with Irfan. For example, when I make a screenshot of my desktop the image sometimes look much darker than is my desktop and sometimes it becomes paler like those pictures up there in the topic.

      Comment


        #4
        Did you reload the image after unchecking it? It won't change automatically or by refreshing.

        If this isn't the problem, why don't you rename the ini, i_view32.bak and see if the problem persists. If it is better, there is some setting in the old ini accounting for it. You might upload the ini for us to take a look.

        Comment


          #5
          I did. I know that changes don't work immediately and I reloaded the image.
          Here's the ini-file.
          Attached Files

          Comment


            #6
            You didn't mention whether running IrfanView without the ini (program defaults) removed the paling effect. Did it?

            You have at least two settings checked that are different in the Viewing tab: Use embedded color profiles for JPG/TIF (PlugIn) and Dither 24BPP images on 16BPP displays.

            Apart from the paling, your screenshots are not the same image, but I don't know if that was intended. They are also in different formats. What format does KMPlayer save in that you are opening in each program, or are you using the clipboard? What format are you then resaving as? What program are you viewing the images in that are displayed in the screenshots?
            Last edited by Skippybox; 11.12.2008, 11:19 PM.

            Comment


              #7
              Originally posted by Skippybox View Post
              You didn't mention whether running IrfanView without the ini (program defaults) removed the paling effect. Did it?

              You have at least two settings checked that are different in the Viewing tab: Use embedded color profiles for JPG/TIF (PlugIn) and Dither 24BPP images on 16BPP displays.

              Apart from the paling, your screenshots are not the same image, but I don't know if that was intended. They are also in different formats. What format does KMPlayer save in that you are opening in each program, or are you using the clipboard? What format are you then resaving as? What program are you viewing the images in that are displayed in the screenshots?
              I didn't mention it because I'm not sure that the IV will want to run without this file. Still I'll try.
              Except the check you told me to remove I haven't changed anything else. I installed the plugin megapack that's in the homepage and left the program that way.
              I know that they're not exactly the same image but the difference remains. I had a "little" OS glitch when I made them and the second copy of the screenshot wasn't saved (don't know why). About the formats - this difference is in all formats (except for the b/w formats) so I thought that it won't matter if I post them in different formats.
              KMPlayer saves the shots in JPG format and when I OPEN them with IV they look pale (even before saving) and when I open them with Paint they look crystal clear like in the second shot I've shown there. And something else - I've just made a few shots and open them with Photoshop: there's no paling when opening all of them with Photoshop. Only IV does that "effect".
              And at the end - I don't know if it does matter but this paling wasn't there when I used IV on my old machine which had nVIDIA 128 MB FX6200. Now I'm with another configuration and with 256 MB ATI Radeon 9550.

              Comment


                #8
                Don't worry. You don't need the ini for the program to run. It will create another ini, if necessary, to save any settings that are different from what are built in. In fact, IrfanView is portable, so you can move it anywhere. If you want, you could copy the EXE to someplace else, like your desktop, and check how it behaves there. Try it.

                For all the formats to be affected, it really sounds like the gamma is still the problem, even though you turned it off. Nothing else should really be causing an issue. However, what is your OS and IV version?

                Wish you success!
                Last edited by Skippybox; 12.12.2008, 04:08 AM.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Originally posted by Skippybox View Post
                  However, what is your OS and IV version?

                  Wish you success!
                  Win XP Pro SP2, IV 4.20.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Originally posted by SGC View Post
                    Win XP Pro SP2, IV 4.20.
                    So, did both machines have this same combination?

                    Any update on trying to open the KMPlayer JPG in IV without the ini or using another IV copy elsewhere?

                    If you want, I can see how it looks in my IV if you upload the original JPG.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Originally posted by Skippybox View Post
                      So, did both machines have this same combination?

                      Any update on trying to open the KMPlayer JPG in IV without the ini or using another IV copy elsewhere?

                      If you want, I can see how it looks in my IV if you upload the original JPG.
                      They had almost the same configuration - same OS version but IV there was 4.10 AND on the old machine the file system on C: was NTFS, not FAT32 like my current one.
                      I can't open IV without the ini - a message appears which says that the file's missing and IV won't run. When I click OK IV closes and reopens and after this action there's a new one ini. I also uploaded IV on my flash drive and it doesn't want to run from there at all. OS tells me something about the file system and the flash drive.
                      Here are the original images you requested. These images here are the way they appear in the player until the film is playing or it's paused. But if I just open them with IV - you saw the result.
                      Attached Files
                      Last edited by SGC; 13.12.2008, 12:21 AM.

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Well, I'm out of ideas. I tried your ini with my 4.2 and the image looks identical in Paint. I suppose you should verifying on another computer or try downloading/installing 4.2 again. This is a mystery.

                        Click image for larger version

Name:	Paint.png
Views:	1
Size:	159.3 KB
ID:	79539Click image for larger version

Name:	IV.png
Views:	1
Size:	173.1 KB
ID:	79540

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Did you uncheck the 'Use embedded color profiles for JPG/TIF (Plugin)' in Properties/Settings/Viewing?

                          Comment


                            #14
                            I did but it appears that IrfanView and KMPlayer don't work well with ATI 9550 because when I changed the format that kmplayer saves captures (changed it to bitmap) they began to appear in IV as they were in the playing movie. But as soon as I change the format to JPG, PNG or something else this difference appears again. I'm saying they don't work well on ATI because I use these programs for already 3 years and never had such a problem. But in these 3 years my VGA was NVIDIA's.
                            But I wouldn't change ATI for something else because ATI's game performance is light years better than nvidia's.

                            Comment


                              #15
                              I don't have an ATI 9550, which appears to be your conflict, but I do use an ATI, that gives me no apparent problems.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X